Tim and Linda Bailey

Tim and Linda Bailey are interviewed by Daniel Clark. (rghs 95)

Daniel: Where was you born?

Linda: Born in Bland County.

Daniel: Ok, and when?

Linda: June 9, 1944.

Daniel: Alright, and your mother and father was?

Linda: Mr. & Mrs. Bernard Clark.

Daniel: And they was born and raised where?

Linda: Bland County.

Daniel: Alright and..

Tim: As far as you know ... your daddy was raised out there in Hollybrook in the Wilderness and your mommy was raised up the creek here.

Linda: Well, I said Bland County.

Tim: Well, I know, but he said where.

Daniel: Alright, and it says, what did they do for a living?

Linda: My mother was a housewife and daddy ...

Tim: An entrepreneur, he did a little bit of everything..

Linda: He farmed and then he was in the line of timber business and ...

Tim: House building, coal mining, iron ore ...

Linda: Yeah, he hauled iron ore, trucks..

Daniel: Alright, when and where were you born?

Tim: Bluefield, West Virginia, July 14, 1943, raised in Bland Co. though.

Daniel: Alright..

Tim: At the nearest hospital, Linda was borned at home.

Linda: That's right!

Daniel: And who was your mother and father?

Tim: Full name? William Burke Bailey and Alma Kidd Bailey.

Daniel: Alright, where were they horned and raised?

Tim: Well, Alma Kidd Bailey was raised in Bastian up Hunting Camp Creek and Burke was raised in, he was borned in Richlands, Doran, I'm sorry, and raised in Doran and Smith Co too, I think, I'm not real sure about that, but I think pretty much around there.

Daniel: And what did they do for a living?

Tim: She was a housewife, and he worked at the sawmill. He was a sawmill man. He died in 1952.

Daniel: Uh.. what was your father like?

Tim: What do you mean what was he like? What do you want to know?

Daniel: Uh.. I don't know.

Tim: I was nine when he died, I can't hardly remember.

Daniel: Oh.

Tim: You know.

Daniel: Ok, what was your mother like?

Tim: What do you mean like what? Compared too?

Daniel: Compared too..

Tim: What do you mean like what?

Daniel: Compared to what Linda's like as a mother to her kids.

Tim: She was real easy going, after I got so old I done as I pleased you know, blah blah blah and etc.,

Daniel: etc? That blah blah blah sounds interesting.

Linda: Yeah, he could tell you some things!

Tim: No, not really, after I got some age on me 14 or 15 years old,I done as I well pleased, I done as I well pleased, you know whatever, went and come when I wanted to. Needless to say, I didn't go to school much blah blah blah.. there you are!

Daniel: So punishment wasn't much of a factor for you?

Tim: Oh no! Why are we on me though, how come we're not talking about Linda here?

Daniel: I'm getting there.

Tim: Ok.

Daniel: So it was different for you?

Linda: Yes, quite different! My mother was a housewife, of course, and being quite a few children thirteen in all, and she stay busy cooking and cleaning and taking care of kids and daddy, what was he like?

Tim: And in other words what was Linda?

Linda: Daddy worked a lot.

Tim:Must of loved a lot didn't he?

Linda: We were very uh.. yeah, we were disciplined, you didn't do as you well pleased.. for a fact! Like what do you want to know here?

Daniel: In comparsion to you as a mother, how was it different from mama? or your mother?

Linda: Quite a lot different. Well.. let's see, in comparsion to me, I mean, I had things a lot modern, more modern than she did. We had automatic washer and dryers back then we washed on, well I know mother has washed on a wash board, but I don't remember those days. I remember the wringer type and back then you washed all day. We got up early, you heated the water, you started washing in the morning and you washed until evening and then you got your clothes and the next day, you ironed all day, you ironed everything but a lot of times that wasn't necessary that mommy done it, we done it, when we got old enough and she canned a lot more than I do now. She.. mother milked cows, but like I said she done a lot, but as we grew older we had to take over the chores you know, like why she did something else, like when she went to milk, we cooked supper. We had to fix supper, we had to wash the dishes. When we came in from you, you'd automatically take off your school clothes and put on your work clothes and you started working. You'd washed dishes and then you'd do your homework and then you went to bed. There was no TV.

Daniel: Alright, what kind of chores did you do?

Tim: Who me?

Daniel: Uh hum.

Tim: Well, you know, I'd get in coal and wood, I did that, cut the grass in the summertime, other than that, that's about it,that's about all I could remember anyway.

Daniel: Alright, .. uh..

Tim: We just lived in a camp house you know, we didn't have no farm, just a house and a lot, you know.

Daniel: Yeah, where was that at?

Tim: Bastian.

Daniel: Bastian?

Tim: Yeah

Daniel: Hunting Camp Creek?

Tim: Yeah.

Daniel: So I guess you were in that CCC stuff uh..

Tim: Now, wait a minute, I'm not quite that old, what do mean in the CCC stuff?

Linda: Did you live in the CCC Camp?

Tim: No.

Daniel: Oh alright.

Tim: I lived in the south end of town, where the old Virginia Hardware Lumber Co. was. I lived in what they called the camp part of that. The CC Camp was over where the factory part of Bastian.

Daniel: Uh hum. That was already moved out?

Tim: Oh yeah. That was in the 30's and 40's Daniel.

Daniel: Oh, I wasn't aware of what time period it was, I thought maybe, but alright, what did you all do for fun?

Linda: Let Tim tell you what he did fun.

Tim: Oh no you go ahead. What we did for fun? Oh Jesus, I don't know, I spent a lot of time out at the Sunset out at the Gap, and at the top of the mountain..

Linda: When you was a child, that was when you got older.

Tim: What I did for fun when I was a child, is that what you want to know?

Daniel: Well either way, which is more interesting.

Tim: Well just what every other youngin done, ya played an ya did this. You swim in the summer and ya camped ... blah bla bla. Fish, hunt a little bit.

Daniel: And things changed alot when you got older, as in what you did for fun?

Tim: Well, I don't know. We still did alot of that too. But we did a few things that was mischievous. You things that was mischievous. You know such as; rotten egg cars, tomato cars just for the heck of it, get a good run you know. Yeah man. All that other stuff too.

Daniel: And you didn't do nothing mischievous when you were little ...

Linda: No, not alot. No, well we did lt.

Tim: She's the angel.

Linda: Well you didn't go anywhere to be mischievous. Well I guess up till you was sixteen anyway or seventeen. When you were growing up we were fine in the summer as I remember we played playhouse but when you went to play play house you had to take one of the children with you, the baby with you. So you were babysitting at the same time you were playing. If you played house you already had a baby so we had to take the baby and play with it.

Tim: In training.

Linda: And uh,well uh ...

Tim: You listening to all this John?

Linda: And lets see we used to play along the creek bank alot, We played Tarzan,not really Tarzan we played Jane and speared crawdads and cooked them, played like we cooked them..

Tim: That's lobster tail man. We used to play a lot of games like uh.. we had a game called bear and dog, where you know, the guys would go hide in the woods or the river or whatever and the dogs would you know, some guys were the dog and some guys were the bear you know. We played games such as that all over the town of Bastian, I mean all over Bastian, you listening to me, I'm talking about all over ok and uh yeah I remember that pretty good. They'd get a little rowdy once in a while.

Daniel: What did you do?

Tim:Well you know, you'd just be in places where maybe you shouldn't been, hiding or whatever, whatever, you know, get people all upset, yeah man, we use to raid cellars to man and have cook outs at night and all kinds of stuff you know. All that fun stuff man.

Linda: Lets see.. what else did we do? We played cowboys and Indians on the hill side..

Tim: Linda was always the squaw.

Linda: Yeah, I remember one time in particular, me and Ralph and Kenny Ray and then, I had a cousin, and we was a playing on the hill, and Arnold had gotten into my red lipstick and had painted himself up like an Indian chief, put a feather in his hat and around the hill the mountain they came a squalling. It got dark and one and Kenny was suppose to be on my side, on our side, and Lord he didn't see me, and he hit me in the head with a stick of wood, like to of killed me. I don't know if anybody told you this one or not, but I'll tell you what they did a whole lot of to and believe this. They cow had manure battles. That is no lie. Sometimes they would pick up one that wasn't quite dry. They'd hit each other with cow piles, that ain't no lie and that's what they'd do, they would throw that at each other, back then, I guess the boys done that a whole lot,they use to play.. like I said, they'd throw cow piles at each other and then they'd throw apples, they'd pull off the green apples off the tree and get in the barn and sling the apples, and they wasn't suppose to play there, and they'd get in there and play, and one time I walked through the barn and one of them sock me right in the eye, busted my eye with a green apple ..

Tim: That's good ain't it Danny?

Linda: And everyone of them came down and had pennies, and you know each one had two or three pennies, and they didn't want me to tell, so if I wouldn't tell they'd give me the pennies, probably I had maybe fifteen, but I wasn't going to tell what happen, so I went to the house and told mommy. Mommy said, "What happen to your eye?" and I said,"I fell down." And she said, "You're lying!" and I said, "No, I fell down on a rock," and she said, "You're still lying, now tell me what happen." So I had to tell her I got hit in the eye with a green apple and of course, the boys got put out of the barn and punished and I had to give the money back.

Tim: She was never good at finances was she?

Linda: No, probably like I said they was fifteen pennies, it was all pennies, but back then that was a lot.

Tim: Her cash flow went away quickly!

Linda: You'd laugh at that. Oh, I don't know what all we did for fun.

Daniel: You remember any times like that Tim, that you would like to elaborate on?

Tim: Tell him all that good stuff hun?

Linda: Tell him some good ones, I know, he's told me some, that they did when they were young boys.

Tim: When we were young boys?

Linda: Yeah, when you got into some of that mischief you use to tell us about.

Tim: I don't know if I want this on record or not.

Linda: Oh you all didn't do that much!

Daniel: That was a long time ago.

Linda: That's right!

Tim: Statue of limitations are out, is that what you're saying?

Daniel: Yeah.

Tim: I don't know, we always use to have an old car, but to keep it going, you had to steal gas, you know what I mean? Had them Georgia Credit Cards and a five gallon can and hose, you know, and we was all over the place stealing gas here and stealing gas there, running here and running there, staying out all night. The bread man would run early every morning and we would steal his bread and his honey buns and stuff, and when held leave them at the store. The papers would come to the post office in the middle of the night, we always get us a paper to go with our honey buns you know, was the thing to do. You like that?

Linda: Tim was always good at reading the newspapers!

Daniel: Up on the events.

Tim: And like I said, you know, we was always raiding somebody's cellar or having a big cook out or you know, seriously, you know, and uh there use to be thing we called uh, you could take that green fishing line, I'm not talking about the clear, but this was nylon..

Daniel: Almost like thread.

Tim: Yeah, uh hun, and you could put a nail on the end of that and put it in a loose board on a house and pull back real tight on it and take a piece of rosin and pull across it and it sound like you were tearing the whole side of the house down. We use to do that a lot too oh, yeah, we use to get people upset big! Hey! I'm talking about, I've seen grown men out there man, doing that junk, having a big time, you know, and junk like that always something like that, always harassing somebody, giving somebody bull.. you know, just having a lot of fun and so on.. What else do you want to know?

Daniel: Well.. What was your house like?

Tim: What was my house like?

Daniel: Yeah.

Tim: What do you mean what was it like?

Daniel: How was it heated and..

Tim: Oh we heated with coal and wood like I told you..

Daniel: Yeah and..

Tim: And then that house burnt and then the new house we heated with oil, I believe, yeah.

Daniel: What did you cook your food on?

Tim: Well, the first house we had a.. my mom had a cookstove along with her mom, which was wood, a wood cook stove, and then she got a.. later on when things got good, she got a electric stove and then in the second house, we always had a electric stove.

Daniel: And did you all grow a garden or anything like that?

Tim: Small, in the back yard, you know, tomatoes and onions and lettuce and stuff such as that. There was no fifty bushels of potatoes or nothing like that no hun un!

Daniel: And you all uh yours was heated with what?

Linda: Ours was heated with mostly with wood, I don't know we might have some with coal, seems like I remember some coal, of course, we cooked on wood heat and as far as gardens of course, we had to have the acreages we was..

Tim: Big ones!

Linda: We had to have the fifty bushels of potatoes. You growed basically the same things you'd grow today but large quantities, I mean like you know, you growed acres of corn and our pay to hole out the corn was a Pepsi, and a treat like on Saturday nights at our house, which I'm sure being different with Tim being one, but was a Pepsi every Saturday night. We got pepsis every Saturday night.

Tim: Well you was lucky, I never did get a Pepsi!

Linda: You made it last long by sipping it and drinking it just a little at a time and if you could, you'd tried to hide it and you'd keep it a little longer and hoped nobody found it and drunk it for you. If they did, it was big. That was the truth! Every Saturday night, it was kinds like chicken on Sundays, Pepsis an Saturday nights! You growed the beef, but most of the time we sold them, you ate the chicken and taters and beans. Let me see, I don't know, course, you had great big pumpkin patches. We had a trailor that you had to take..

Tim: Pumpkins?

Linda: Yeah, and take it down to the patch and bring in all the pumpkins and put them in the cellar and uh all that sort of thing.

Tim: How come pumpkins stood out in your mind there?

Linda: I just remember the trailor that we use to.. daddy use to have this big long red trailor and we'd ride it down to the patch and pick them up and .. shock the corn..

Tim: Made a game out of it.

Linda: Yeah, that was fun, actually that was a lot of fun. I enjoyed that.

Tim: Going to the pumpkin patch!

Linda: It was always a big thing, it was always.. what did you say?

Tim: Going to the pumpkin patch.

Linda: Well it was fun, gotta whole bunch of kids.

Tim: Wow! Hun Danny?

Linda: It was better than stealing gas!

Tim: Well we both got to ride.

Linda: It was a big thing and you know to who was going to get to drive the tractor, which ever boy you know, as they got older they got to learn to drive the farm tractor, so it was a big thing to see who got to drive, learned this year to drive the tractor uh I don't know.

Daniel: Well, where did you go to school Bailey?

Tim: Where did you go to school Bailey? Well uh Bailey went to school at Bastian then he went to school at Rocky Gap for a short period.

Daniel: When you wasn't playing hookie?

Tim: Yeah a couple to three years I went to Rocky Gap, but I was always in the same grade. I got kicked out when I was shaving man hun..

Daniel: Uh alright, what was school like for you?

Tim: What was school? I hated school man, hated it, always hated it! School was a drag, I wanted to be into something, you know, didn't have time for school .

Daniel: Did you ride the bus to school or..

Tim: Oh yeah! I walked to school at Bastian..

Daniel: And uh how strict were the teachers?

Tim: Pretty strict! Pretty strict!

Daniel: A lot of punishment and uh..

Tim: Oh yeah! I kept my hind end blistered, when I was in grade school especially.

Daniel: What kind of trouble did you get into?

Tim: Jesus! I can't remember, just about everything you know?

Daniel: Yeah, whatever there was to get into?

Tim: Yeah, whatever there was the star of the show.

Daniel: Alright, and where did you go to school?

Linda: Hollybrook for seven years and then high school at Rocky Gap, of course, I rode the bus.

Daniel: Who were your teachers?

Linda: While I was in high school or in grade school?

Daniel: Well either..

Linda: Well when I was in grade school, they had two or three grades to the room you know, you might have first through third which was Mrs. Faulkner, 4th and 5th Mrs Hazel.. Ms Irene Faulkner was the first & second and maybe third, I can't remember the fourth and fifth was Ms. Hazel Ramsey and then the sixth and seventh was Ms. Alice Mustard and she was the principal of the school and she was one tuff lady!

Tim: Big Al!

Linda: She would burn 'em up! I don't care, even when they was high school down there, I mean she was very very strict! Very strict! She didn't think nothing of whipping them with a paddle, the boys and the girls too!

Daniel: Did you ever get into any trouble?

Linda: Not really! Not really, I didn't get into trouble in school. I didn't have a lot of trouble in school. I was a pretty good student I guess. I don't remember, might have for talking you know, you'd have to write then. When I got into high school..

Tim: Now! for the rest of the story!

Linda: Well no.. when I got into high school, I didn't get into no whole lot of trouble. I just remember one time about three of us no.. there was a whole crew of us girls.. there was about seven or eight of us, they was having some kind of student exchange, I think it was, and the principal was gone so the assistant was there and we made it up in our minds that we were all going to come to school that day, come in the front door and go out the back and, but we would have gotten away with it too, but one little elementary child was walking to school and she passed us and we went to the Sunset Restaurant, and was all getting prepared for what we were going to do that day, and the principal marched in, two or three of the girls hid in the bathrooms, the rest of us got took back to school and had to write, and then the others got a whipping in high school, and I think there was a little mess over that too, over, there was two or three got whipped for hiding in the bathrooms.

Daniel: Alright, and who was your teachers?

Tim: lst grade there was lady from Bland named Ms. Perry, who wore a hearing aid who couldn't hear,I can remember that real good, and then 2nd grade was uh.. well I'm not real sure about the 2nd grade but the 3rd and 4th grade was uh Marie Umbarger from Bastian and then the 6th grade was Ms. Brown and the 7th grade was Mary Muncy, but like she said was the principal and was one tuff ombre! Bust ya big if you got out of line, ooh, I've been busted big ... and then in high school, do you want to know the names of then? Garland L. Updike was the principal and then Malcom Ruddy was the Ag teacher and uh

Linda: Was Rosie Gordan out there then?

Tim: Yeah, she taught Social Studies and what was her name?

Linda: Altizer?

Tim: Yeah, Ms. Altizer she taught English was it?

Linda: Um hum.

Tim: And then Earl Crabtree was the Science teacher.

Linda: He was the assistant principal too!.

Tim: Earl, baby. and then who was that dude that taught math? He was a trooper, a State trooper for Chesterville Co.

Linda: Mr. Gilman.

Tim: Yeah, and that's about it.

Daniel: Well alright, didn't mama teach school?

Linda: She was a substitute teacher.

Daniel: Did you ever go to school under her?

Tim: That was when she was a child though, that was when she was going to school.

Daniel: Oh, I see.

Linda: Mommy was going to school then.

Daniel: Alright, what was the holidays like?

Linda: Thinking back I don't remember too, I can't remember to many. I remember Christmas, I know it was a lot different than what it is now, I can remember a few Christmas' but, you got one toy if you got anything you know, I remember one time I we all got one doll house for two or three of the girls, we all had to play it the one doll house and then I remember getting, I'm sure I got others I just can't remember them, I remember one year when I was about 10 or 11 getting a doll and I can remember I got the big sister and Patsy got the little sister doll. I can remember that, like I said, the holidays were a lot different than they are now...

Tim: I can't remember the holidays, except they were just another day ..

Linda: I think there was not that much planning as there is now, you know.

Tim: Places to go, plus you didn't have no money to go, so you didn't plan on going nowhere on the holidays..

Linda: That's the truth, it was just a time that all the family was there and I think the day before Christmas was when you put up your tree you know, you didn't have it up 3 or 4 weeks before. You put it up the day before and everybody was excited. I can remember on Christmas Eve we was excited, tried to lay awake at night, so we wouldn't go to sleep so we'd get to see what we got the next day you know and then you eat and play with your toys.

Tim: The Clarks couldn't take the excitement, so they took it back to Christmas Eve. Now they open them on Christmas Eve, not on Christmas Day man..

Daniel: Ain't that a fact?

Linda: And Easter ,I think, I remember Easter much more than the others because we always had to go Sunday School.

Tim:Cause you got new clothes man.

Linda: We always colored eggs, not that many new clothes, you did get some, I can remember one time in particular mommy got us, I guess the first dress I remember was getting a new dress was at Easter and Mommy got Patsy a pink one and I got a blue one and they were chiffon with nylon over them and ole I thought they were the most gorgeous things in the world and the first time Mommy ironed mine, she set the iron on it hot and melted it

Tim: Linda's life..

Linda: I cried for days I did.. I cried for days.. Got promised I'd get another one, but I never did.. clothes for 13 children was hard to come by.

Tim: Princess Di's main dress went down the tubes

Linda: Right, let me tell you, you were use to back then. Daddy would buy feed and it came in flowered sacks and those sacks after they emptied the feed out of it, my Aunt Lynn would make us dresses out of it .. out of feed sacks that's what we wore a lot and then the rest were handy me downs a new dress was few and far between. There was an ole couple moved out in the Wilderness and what did they call that the Top of the Divide?

Tim: Right! Right!

Linda: I don't remember their first names but it was Mr & Mrs Rueben. The man was mean, I mean, he really was mean, but they came in out there from a city somewhere and brought in , they would go places..

Tim: They was from Las Vegas!

Linda: But it was like having a great big back yard sale all the time. They would go places and buy clothes and stuff and come in here ..

Tim: She had a department store right on top of the Divides.

Linda: She did! That's the truth they did!

Tim: In her house.

Linda: And you go out there and buy your clothes man, and sometimes you could get some nice ones you know, you bought your dresses for a quarter and I can remember some of the prettiest clothes I had came from there, that's the truth, you couldn't afford it well you know the girl before, you wore hand me. I took that money and used it for school, that's the only way that I got a class ring is that I worked at the sewing factory and I really lied about my age cause you were suppose to be sixteen and I was almost sixteen when I went to work. I worked through the summer and the next year I went to school of the day and would go up there at night at Bastian Sewing Factory and worked after school until 11:00 at night and then come home and do your homework..

Daniel: How did you get home? Did you drive or..

Linda: Well they was like five or six of us and they had some other people that was on night shift,an older person, you know, and some of them would drive us home. There was about three or four of us that live out in this area that worked those hours. It didn't last too long, they just hired us for..

Tim: Needless to say, she wasn't a millionare for long.

Linda: No, you wouldn't, going to get that on a dollar an hour.

Daniel: Well, around the holidays do you remember any funny stories or pranks that were pulled?

Linda: Like what in the pranks? I don't remember.

Daniel: I don't know, like Halloween or you know.

Linda: Halloween used to be really drastic in this area. I mean, you know it's not like they came to the houses and done anything, but the boys use to run the roads and cut trees..

Tim: Just run the roads..

Linda: They just run the roads and cut trees down .. they didn't do .. it's not like they came to your house and done anything and then..

Tim: Soaped your windows real good.

Linda: No, they didn't soap your windows, back then, I don't remember ours, they may have in other areas, of course, back, I don't remember having costumes to go trick or treating. We went trick or treating just as we were.

Tim: Natural.

Linda: Tim's not cute.. He thinks he is. We just went to a few houses.

Linda: You got baked goods and apples, cookies that they baked or pop corn or this sort of thing. I don't remember too many Halloweens anyway. Easter, you went to church, you had eggs to color and then you had an Easter egg hunt, you didn't have the candy, but you did have the eggs, only because you had chickens, you got to color eggs, that was fun, but I don't remember to many pranks on Halloween, except like I said, they just cut trees down.

Daniel: Well, how did your Halloweens go?

Linda: That should be good, they wouldn't be blah blah either.

Tim: Well, we use to do a lot of cutting trees, you know..

Linda:Yeah, I know, I don't know anybody that I could say that it happen to, but I know at Halloween, years ago, they use to turn their outside toilets over. They did, they turned them over..

Tim: Wow, What do you think about that, Daniel?

Tim: Hey, John Dodson, how would you like to have your John turned over?

Tim: But that's the truth?

Daniel: Did you ever turn any Johns over?

Tim: No. . No.Never did turn any Johns over.

Daniel: Alright, how did teenagers court when they were young?

Tim: Wow! How did teenagers court? Honey, you tell him, cause you were an artist at that.

Linda: Right! You weren't allowed to go out until you were sixteen..

Tim: Believe me, times have changed!

Linda: Oh yeah! It has definitely changed, you couldn't court a boy only in your mind, you might like somebody, but like I said you couldn't go out with anybody until you were sixteen, I mean, and then you courted at the house. They could come and see you and that was the jest of that and maybe to a ball game or to a school sport or something like that you could.

Tim: What about all them eyes you use to make at school at them guys? Huh, what about that?

Linda: That wasn't courting, that was flirting..

Tim: You was eyeballing.

Linda: But like I said, things have really changed at that, I don't guess.. you went as a group, it so much different now than it was then., cause I can remember maybe three car loads of boys and girls a dating and we go, see the thing was to go to Pearisburg to the movies.

Tim: Outdoors.

Linda: Some were just friends, sometimes you weren't courting, you were just friends and like I said, they'd be three car loads of us and you go down to the Dairy Queen down there and maybe get you a sundae and then you'd go, we'd always get to the movie late 30 or at least 45 minutes before it started, you know, and sit out on the cars and watch an outdoor movie. That was fun! And everybody parked in a line and they always had a good time up until the guys got up to the age they could drink.

Tim: And then they had them tail gate parties, man.

Linda: No, then that was rough.

Daniel: Well, How did you all meet?

Tim: How she and I meet?

Daniel: Uh hm!

Linda: We had went to school together and like he said he quit when he was 16 and went into the service, so we didn't see each other and then I got out of school and I went to work at Bastian Sportswear, that's the place everybody went when you got out of school or college and then when he got out of service, he went to work at Bastian Sportswear.

Tim: That's true, man, I ran a button hole machine.

Linda: He did, and I folded shirts and there's where we met.

Tim: And lived happily ever after.

Linda: We started dating then, he didn't work long at the sewing factory, no, he couldn't cut it. How long did you work there?

Tim: Uh.. about six weeks.

Linda: About six weeks and then he went to work somewhere else.

Daniel: Well where were you married?

Linda: Pulaski.

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